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Odd Lots Podcast: Anthropic, the Pentagon, and the Future of Autonomous Weapons

Thought Leader: Paul Scharre
March 28, 2026

As debates intensify over the role of artificial intelligence in warfare—highlighted by tensions between the Pentagon and Anthropic over the use of AI in autonomous weapons and surveillance—this episode explores what these developments really mean in practice. Featuring Paul Scharre, Executive Vice President and Director of Studies at the Center for a New American Security and a leading expert on AI and national security, the conversation unpacks how AI models are currently being used in conflict and what a fully autonomous weapons system could entail. A former Department of Defense official and bestselling author on the future of warfare, Scharre offers critical insight into the ethical, technological, and strategic implications shaping modern conflict—and is available for speaking engagements on these urgent topics.

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